WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



twoleftfeet 9:22 Wed Jun 2
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Typical British mentality.

Build them up to knock them down.

I couldn’t give a shit what he said 8 years ago but we live in a woke country so no doubt the usual suspects will expect him to resign.

shammer 10:18 Wed Jun 2
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
The offending tweets can be seen on the Wisden site, here:

https://wisden.com/series-stories/england-v-new-zealand/ollie-robinson-apologises-after-racist-and-sexist-tweets-resurface-during-test-debut

Not at all what I expected; immature jokes, and that's about it.

Sven Roeder 12:20 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Could have been worse



They might have picked Craig Overton

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:21 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Come On You Irons 1:05 Wed Jun 2

The law is to prevent fast bowlers coming round the wicket and bowling at the batsmen's heads.

Essentially, it's one of the the law-changes, along with only two fielders allowed behind square on the leg side, that was brought in to prevent 'bodyline'.

Sven Roeder 12:32 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
I don't believe if a ball pitches outside leg that it has EVER been LBW.
It was 1937 before a ball pitching outside off could be LBW

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/the-evolution-of-the-lbw-1074311

Obviously if you couldnt be LBW when bowlers were going around the wicket and pitching outside leg then BODYLINE was an even more despicable tactic

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:13 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Following the events of Bodyline in 1933, the law was altered. It was accepted that bowlers needed to be given an incentive for bowling at the stumps. To prevent another bodyline, the leg side was excluded.

The law was trialed in the county championship from 1935 and passed into the laws in 1937.

zebthecat 2:43 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
The aftermath of bodyline was the restriction of fielders behind square leg so the bowler could no longer aim the head and body bowling to leg knowing that it carried no risk of giving runs away.
It must have been fun as a genuinaly quick bowler firing it into the bat with that field (I was sharpish when I was young and had a good bouncer).

zebthecat 2:47 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
I have just repeated exactly what Surf said only more incoherently.
Lessons learned:
Read the thread
Go to bed

Come On You Irons 11:19 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
My view is that the leg side no-LBW law should be abolished as it doesn't even prevent bowlers from bowling bouncers.

A case like yesterday, when the ball pitches on a good length just outside leg stump and is projected to hit MIDDLE stump, shows up the law for the ass that it is. It should be binned.

Westside 11:27 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Another reason to keep the existing lbw law, re pitching outside leg stump, is the rough a right handed over the wicket bowler generates, when bowling.

This will be outside leg stump, when a right handed batsman is facing a bowler from the other end. A spinner just has to pitch the ball in that rough, get very sharp turn and the batsman, will have very little chance, to defend his wicket with bat only, to say nothing of playing any sort of attacking stroke.

El Scorchio 1:45 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Don't look remotely like getting anyone out at the moment.

Big total coming here, so it's all going to be on whether England don't panic and bat like a proper test side or just collapse trying to play stupid shots or having lapses in concentration.

Let's face it, we've been here before. We'll be all out for less than 200.

El Scorchio 1:49 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Glad I wrote that.

Wicket!

Here goes again. 'We don;t look remotely like getting them all out for less than 350.'

Fingers crossed...

Mr. Burns 2:28 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Good work here Scorch

Come On You Irons 2:29 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Brilliant use of DRS there by England to get rid of the mulletted Zimbabwean.

El Scorchio 2:30 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Mr. Burns 2:28

Yup! That post at 1.45 has really stood the test of time, I feel :)

Coffee 3:12 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Keep up the good work, Scorch.

El Scorchio 3:40 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
'We've no hope of polishing them all off in the next hour.'

El Scorchio 3:44 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Regardless of any of that silly stuff, what a wonderful innings from Conway in context of the rest of his team.

Rossal 3:58 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Lad here went a school with Conway......he is a Saffa who couldnt oust De Kock so switched to the kiwis

some innings on debut mind

Sven Roeder 4:20 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
What is the highest Test score in someones first innings at Lords?

Come On You Irons 4:24 Thu Jun 3
Re: First Test - England v New Zealand at Lords
Ever heard of Google, DULLARD?

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